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Здравствуйте! Прошу помощи в следующем вопросе:
Горизонтально расположенный цилиндр разделен подвижным поршнем на две части. В одной части находится 8 г гелия, а в другой – 18 г водорода. Какую часть объема всего цилиндра занимает гелий?
Горизонтально расположенный цилиндр разделен подвижным поршнем на две части. В одной части находится 8 г гелия, а в другой – 18 г водорода. Какую часть объема всего цилиндра занимает гелий?
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01.12.2021, 20:38
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Из какого источника Вы взяли эту задачу?
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Facta loquuntur.
Facta loquuntur.
01.12.2021, 21:44
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Дайте, пожалуйста, ссылку для загрузки этой методички.
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Facta loquuntur.
Facta loquuntur.
01.12.2021, 21:50
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К сожалению, я не знаю как это сделать. Данная методичка находится в электронной библиотеке вуза, к доступу которой имеет только авторизованный пользователь.
01.12.2021, 21:57
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Тогда Вам остаётся полагаться на инициативу экспертов раздела и, возможно, мою. 
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Facta loquuntur.
Facta loquuntur.
02.12.2021, 17:07
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это ответ
Объемы газов распределятся пропорционально числу их молекул. Из условия имеем 0,008/0,004 = 2 моля гелия и 0,018/0,002 = 9 молей водорода. Всего 11 молей. 2/11 объема займет гелий и 9/11 объема займет водород. Это легко понять записав уравнение Менделеева-Клапейрона при условии равенства давлений газов.
P*(V1+V2)=(m1/mu1 + m2/mu2)*R*T и P*V1=(m1/mu1)*R*T .
P*(V1+V2)=(m1/mu1 + m2/mu2)*R*T и P*V1=(m1/mu1)*R*T .
02.12.2021, 17:10
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Забыл упомянуть, что смог найти в интернете немного похожую задачу, но лично мне ход решения не понятен.
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02.12.2021, 20:14
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Хорошо, спасибо за ответ. Но вот я пробовал решать аналогично этому способу (в прикрепленном файле задаче), у меня получается 2/3 объема займет гелий.
9 моль*8 г / (9 моль*8 г + 2 моль*18 г)=2/3 отношение.
Что не так?
9 моль*8 г / (9 моль*8 г + 2 моль*18 г)=2/3 отношение.
Что не так?
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02.12.2021, 22:45
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Нет, по вашей формуле получается 2/11V, а вот по решению из вложения ниже совершенно другой ответ, если подставить все значения из моей задачи. Можете, пожалуйста, посмотреть, там в конце отношение получается (не понятно почему такое), оттуда и другой ответ.
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02.12.2021, 23:45
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Я "в лоб" делю формулу из 3-й строки на формулу из 2-й строки и получаю тоже что пишете Вы V2/V1 = (m1/mu1) / (m2/mu2).
Что здесь неясно?
Что здесь неясно?
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