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У меня такой вот вопрос. Я еду в лифте(сверху вниз)...лифт начинает падать...если я(допустим) именно в тот миг, когда должно произойти соприкосновение лифта с полом подпрыгну...со мной ничего не случится? Если допустить что меня не приплюснет потолком лифта.
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16.11.2007, 21:28
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Здравствуйте, Гальцов Андрей! Как Выам известно в любой шахте есть тормозная система на этот случай. Поэтому сильного удара не должно получиться. Но если у Вас старый лифт и эта система не в рабочем состоянии, то Вас разгонит в зависимости от высоты. Но внизу опять засада в виде пружин. Которые отбросят лифт обратно вверх. А Вы после прыжка как раз будете возвращаться вниз. Далее по всем законам физики будет сложение сил. И у Вас действительно будут ноги от ушей.
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17.11.2007, 00:31
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Здравствуйте, Гальцов Андрей! Если применить принцип относительности скоростей, а за точку отсчёта взять стенки шахты, то скорость Ваша V1 и кабины V2 в первом приближении равны. После прыжка со скоростью относительно кабины V3 Ваша скорость относительно стенок шахты будет составлять V1 = V2 - V3. Возьмите свою массу, посчитайте энергию, которая высвободится при ударе... Следует учесть, что Вы (с кабиной))) падаете под действием силы тяжести и без торможения о стенки шахты, значит, находитесь в состоянии невесомости, в момент толчка кабина получит дополнительную скорость здесь будет играть роль разность масс - Вашей и кабины. Короче, теоретически - система, я думаю, решаема, практически - у человека не хватит сил так оттолкнуться.
Здравствуйте, Гальцов Андрей! Подпрыгивать вовсе не надо - пока лифт падает, Вы будете в невесомости, т.е. падать отдельно от кабины. Соответственно и дальше всё произойдёт совершенно так же, как при падении отдельно от кабины.
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17.11.2007, 13:17
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Здравствуйте, Гальцов Андрей!
Нам в школе как-то рассказывали про такое. Допустим, такое случилось и не сработала система безопасности. Разогнанный лифт падает на страховочные пружины, которые на дне шахты лифта. Эти пружины подкидывают лифт назад (если стены кабины не проломятся, дно не отвалится от стен и не получится пресс между потолком кабины и спружиненным полом), поэтому в момент падения лучше присесть. Скорость не будет такой, чтобы почувствовать невесомость. Думаю, во второй раз, когда спружиненная кабина будет возвращаться вниз, присесть не получится. Будет травма.
Во всяком случае мои познания теоретические, к счастью, практики не имел.
Владимир.
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17.11.2007, 22:03
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Здравствуйте, Гальцов Андрей!
Собственно, нет никакой разницы - падаете ли Вы в лифте или просто падаете. Если Вы упадете на пружину безопасности (в лифте), на натяный батут, в глубокий снег, в стог и т.п., эти вещи помогут смягчить удар за счет того, что скорость будет гаситься с меньшим ускорением, чем при ударе о твердую поверхность. Если же этих вещей нет - перед смертью не надышишся. Если Вы бросились с 10-го этажа на асфальт, прыгай в момент приземления или не прыгай - финал один и тот же.
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20.01.2009, 20:31
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Чтобы компенсировать удар, вам придётся оттолкнутся от пола с такой силой, что вы разобъётесь о крышу упавшей кабины. И к тому же чтобы компенсировать падение например с 5-го этажа, надо подпрыгнуть так, что вне лифта вы бы запрыгнули на 5-й этаж
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